Comments on: Compare Object Teams to AOP? http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/ Everthing Object Teams - adding team spirit to your objects. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:05:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Object Teams Final 0.7.0 at The Object Teams Blog http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-1647 Object Teams Final 0.7.0 at The Object Teams Blog Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:32:01 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-1647 [...] How exactly each role relates to its base is declared using two kinds of atomic bindings: callout and callin method bindings (see, e.g., this post). [...] [...] How exactly each role relates to its base is declared using two kinds of atomic bindings: callout and callin method bindings (see, e.g., this post). [...]

]]> By: Anna Goldschmidt http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-131 Anna Goldschmidt Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:30:01 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-131 Nice article. Just started exploring OT a few months ago. Seems interesting... By the way, it seems OT is already gaining points to Java (check the "Evidence-Based Comparison of Modularity Support Between Java and Object Teams" paper): http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~greenwop/escot10/program.htm Nice article. Just started exploring OT a few months ago. Seems interesting…

By the way, it seems OT is already gaining points to Java (check the “Evidence-Based Comparison of Modularity Support Between Java and Object Teams” paper):

http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~greenwop/escot10/program.htm

]]> By: OO 2.0: Reuse « Dark Views http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-85 OO 2.0: Reuse « Dark Views Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:21:07 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-85 [...] ways. If you’re wondering if this is AOP with a new name or just delegation on steroids, this post will help to understand what OT is and what it’s [...] [...] ways. If you’re wondering if this is AOP with a new name or just delegation on steroids, this post will help to understand what OT is and what it’s [...]

]]> By: stephan http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-33 stephan Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:52:08 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-33 @aivanoff: yes, one could argue in that direction, but rather then me overwhelming you with details of similarities and differences: what similarities do *you* see? Similar goals? Similar mechanism? Similar problems solved? Similar metaphors? Which? @aivanoff: yes, one could argue in that direction, but rather then me overwhelming you with details of similarities and differences: what similarities do *you* see? Similar goals? Similar mechanism? Similar problems solved? Similar metaphors?
Which?

]]> By: aivanoff http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-32 aivanoff Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:52:07 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-32 It seems there is at least one similar java project named qi4j (http://www.qi4j.org)... or maybe i'm wrong? It seems there is at least one similar java project named qi4j (http://www.qi4j.org)… or maybe i’m wrong?

]]> By: stephan http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-28 stephan Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:04:25 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-28 @iloncar: If you install the OTDT you'll get 5 examples for free (New > Example > Object Teams ...). Those are basically toy examples but should help for illustration. As I'm writing this I think I should actually document the examples more visibly, probably in the Wiki. As a next step our old Wiki has a collection of patterns, which is somewhere in between abstract concepts and real examples. It's here: http://trac.objectteams.org/ot/wiki/OtPatterns These are just a few quick pointers that you could follow right now. I do intend posting more examples here, too. Thanks for asking. @iloncar: If you install the OTDT you’ll get 5 examples for free (New > Example > Object Teams …). Those are basically toy examples but should help for illustration.

As I’m writing this I think I should actually document the examples more visibly, probably in the Wiki.

As a next step our old Wiki has a collection of patterns, which is somewhere in between abstract concepts and real examples. It’s here: http://trac.objectteams.org/ot/wiki/OtPatterns

These are just a few quick pointers that you could follow right now. I do intend posting more examples here, too. Thanks for asking.

]]> By: iloncar http://blog.objectteams.org/2010/02/compare-object-teams-to-aop/#comment-26 iloncar Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:24:57 +0000 http://blog.objectteams.org/?p=9#comment-26 Hi Stephan! Please keep explaining OT/J. Give us more examples/ideas. I have a guts feeling that OT/J could solve a lot of problems in a easier way - even more so since I saw what you did with OTDT. At least it's a little bit less magical than aspectj. The biggest problem I see is that these are all abstract concepts that need to "click" in our minds. I know you're a researcher but community needs examples and we heavily rely on you to bootstrap us. From my perspective, I would like to play more with OT/J but I yet need to figure out a scenario in a typical JEE web application where it could shine. In the eclipse world you gave us OTDT to study. I guess a lot of integrations (like: maven, ivy, classpath containers, new/improved WTP platforms) could benefit from OTDT as an example. Could you take a couple of really interesting examples and explain to us how you applied OT/J? Thanks! Hi Stephan!

Please keep explaining OT/J. Give us more examples/ideas.

I have a guts feeling that OT/J could solve a lot of problems in a easier way - even more so since I saw what you did with OTDT. At least it’s a little bit less magical than aspectj.

The biggest problem I see is that these are all abstract concepts that need to “click” in our minds.

I know you’re a researcher but community needs examples and we heavily rely on you to bootstrap us.
From my perspective, I would like to play more with OT/J but I yet need to figure out a scenario in a typical JEE web application where it could shine.

In the eclipse world you gave us OTDT to study.
I guess a lot of integrations (like: maven, ivy, classpath containers, new/improved WTP platforms) could benefit from OTDT as an example. Could you take a couple of really interesting examples and explain to us how you applied OT/J?

Thanks!

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